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Schooling |
Hi Everyone... Ive heard of a new type of shoeing called Cytek Shoeing... Has anyone heard of it? Just wondering if anyones tryed it and what the result was?
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Schooling |
Hey KK, I talked to the guy at the capital classic about it! It sounded interesting!
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Greenie |
I have used cytek horse shoeing for the past 4 years and love it. My horse is shod cytek on the front feet and my mini is trimed cytek i luv the farriers and the shoes
http://www.cytekhorse.com For global cytek http://www.cytekhorseshoeing.com for US cytek --used to be normal now im natural-- |
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Schooling |
I have been using Cytek Shoeing for almost 5 years now, I have had the best results. Average reset is every 14 to 16 weeks except during the quick growth in summer(maybe 12 weeks)... Neil Daly is the farrier that was at Capital Classic. Excellent, very good with horses!! Neil conducted a very thorough clinic when I was at school for Equine massge therapy, he really knows conformation and can really do wonders on a horse. My 13 year old gelding has never gone better!! Also he trims barefoot horses differently too. I will post his number for anyone interested.
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Schooling |
I have also been to a clinic by Neil Daly and it seemed very interresting, he really nkows his stuff. I also know some people who have used cytec. Really made a difference on their horses. I was told they can also help horses with lamess issues. Worth a try IMO.
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Greenie |
Hi there. If anybody is wanting more info about Cytek shoeing and trimming please contact me. If anyone wants to attend or organise a hoof and leg dissection clinic just let me know. Due to the complex mechanics and individual needs of horses it is difficult to explain in type.
My contact details are: Neil Daly 819-671-2992(h)613-799-8190(cell)or daly.neil@gmail.com |
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Grand Prix |
Neils demonstrations are very interesting and informative. He even has a real coffin bone and other parts of a horse's hoof.
ETA: Here is another thread on Cytek Horse Shoeing http://horseworld.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5221046...361023803#2361023803 This message has been edited. Last edited by: Modern Magic, |
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Greenie |
I have just had cyteck put on my 17h thoroughbred, and he is fantastic on his feet..he is a dressage horse which obviously requires precise movement..the change in his gate is unbelievable!! I LOVE THIS SYSTEM OF SHOEING!
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Greenie |
I forgot to mention to all that are a bit sceptical, i was too, but with the advise and step by step information i completley understand the reasoning for this style of shoeing... its a major support on the pedal bone which takes the brunt of all movement... once supprted correctly, it allows for free movement and less stumble action! just try it.. you wont turn back! Thanx guys!!
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Got Spots? Get an Appaloosa! Schooling |
well, I personally have not had a good experience with the trimming method. My mare has consistently come up lame after this style of trimming(to the point of being unable to stand in her grass paddock for long periods of time).
I also don't like that the shoes are cast. They cannot be shaped to horse's foot. Hot or cold. It doesn't really make sense to me to shape the horse's hoof to a shoe. If it works for your horse that's great! but I just wanted to say that it doesn't work for every horse. No one trimming method works for every horse. Anyhow, go see for yourself and decide on your own opinions. I'm not discouraging anyone from trying something different if it works for their horse. |
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Schooling |
I have Cytek on my mare and it's probably the best decision I've made regarding her shoeing.
I've had Cytek for the last 4 years now and her feet are the best I've ever seen them. I haven't seen a crack in ages, we've never pulled off a shoe since Cytek. The worse thing I had to deal with was a cork came off but that was probably me not putting them tight enough Anyways, Cytek was great for my mare. The farrier said it could take up to 2 years to completly feel the change in some horses but with my mare, I started feeling some changes only after a few days. Now 4 years later, you wouldn't believe that she is the same horse. We now have suspension in our trot! |
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Greenie |
Having Cytek on my horses was the best decision I've ever made. Just to clarify Vintage Lace's point that the shoe can't be shaped - it can be shaped if the farrier really wants to but this is really undoing the point of the shoe. It has been designed to fit the pedal bone which is the actual structure of the foot. The hoof outside can distort into all sorts of shapes and if the farrier shapes the shoe to fit the hoof, he is allowing the deformity to continue - a bit like us buying bigger shoes to accommodate overgrown toe nails. Because Cytek shoes fit the pedal bone and support the structure, the hoof can grow down normally so it is important not to alter the shoes to get the best from them.
I'd recommend them to every horse owner. The only problems I've heard of have been when a farrier makes a mistake, just like everyone can from time to time, but the shoe gets the blame. |
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Got Spots? Get an Appaloosa! Schooling |
I don't buy that.
The hoof should be properly balance before ANY shoe is put on it. If the farrier is applying a shoe to an unbalanced foot, then he's not doing his job right. I don't think every horse should be made to fit the same shoe(and I'm not talking size here). |
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Hang Time Hear Me Out Grand Prix |
I went to view a horse and at first glance I thought he was barefoot. When he started walking down the aisle I heard clink clink on the asfault and stopped him dead, lfted his foot and to my horror saw a cytek shoe. It was an awful sight. The horse was... sound, but not moving well. Horse was purchased and immediately trimmed the traditional way and has since proven to be quite fancy, though it took some work to correct his feet.
To those who use it, good for you, to those who don't, THANK GOD! I will never EVER use cytek, there is no horse walking this earth that deserves such a thing. Resetting every few months is a disgusting thought, try trimming your nails that often... sick. My opinion, tear me apart if you wish, nothing can change my opinion on cytek shoeing, I hope that one day it will be banned. HMO Half Pads are Dead "The only thing holding me together is God's good humour" |
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Forward, calm and straight. Schooling |
I have used Cytek and while it didn't seem to be the best solution for my horse, I think bordeline calling it cruel is exagerated. I would add that it is not true that shoes stay on for months... The farrier in the area that does Cytek shoeing actually recommends trimming barefoot horses every three weeks and resetting shoes every six weeks. Hardly a matter of months. Unfortunately, I think you have happened to stumble across an odd case. It was probably the owner who decided to let the same shoes on for that long... I don't know the exact situation but knowing the farrier very well, I highly doubt it was his call to leave the shoes on for that long. All in all, it is not any worse then anything else so just go with what works best for your horse : that's all that matters. |
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Schooling |
Cytek shoes can NOT be shaped (hot or cold) and the cytek official website states that these shoes can be left on for up to 18 weeks...and that the hooves should NOT be picked out or cleaned. All very scary things for me as a farrier to hear!
I have yet to see a horse improve long term with these type of shoe... they do cover all of the sole so if your horse has sole problems that will be covered up by theses shoes. |
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Schooling |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by melaniem:
Cytek shoes can NOT be shaped (hot or cold) and the cytek official website states that these shoes can be left on for up to 18 weeks...and that the hooves should NOT be picked out or cleaned. All very scary things for me as a farrier to hear! |
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Schooling |
They can be left on longer b/c the hoof will naturally use itself as these shoes do not cover up the toes. Its like horses without shoes, they dont have to be trimmed as often as resets... Saying that, my farrier suggest resetting the shoe every 6-8weeks. Keeps the hoof healthy.
As for as long term improvements, you should see my horse 4 years ago and you should see her now. Totally different looking horse. People that know her can't believe how god her feet looks and how much her movement have improved. IMO, every body is allowed theirs. And what works for one may not work for the other... Its just like the whole Side Reins and Draw Reins dillemma people seemed to have. I dont see this as being any different, Cytek my work for your horse, but may not for your friend.... I think because its not traditional and classy, people have a harder time understanding why other people would go for those type of shoes.
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Got Spots? Get an Appaloosa! Schooling |
Whoever said barefoot horses don't need to be trimmed as often is absolutely wrong.
Barefoot horses need to be trimmed just as regularly as any other horse. 4-6 weeks is good. It all depends on your horse and the it's environment. If you horse's hooves grow fast (especially if they grow particularly unbalanced) then, 4 weeks is probably better. If your horse grows a little slower, or maybe he's got excellent conformation and his hooves tend to stay balanced a little longer, then 6 weeks, maybe more is just fine. Environmental factors play a role in how often your horse's hooves need trimming. For example, this excessively wet summer may require more frequent trimming as the rain causes your horse's hooves to become soft(stretching and flaring). The horse uses more of his hoof than just his toes. Another thing, a skilled farrier can take any shoe and set it further back to encourage more break-over. There are different styles of shoes and shoeing for different circumstances. Rim shoeing is just one style. You are absolutely right though, what works for one horse probably won't work for the next. However, I personally will never let Cytek near my horse ever again. Tell me...How does your horse fare without his Cytek shoes on?? This message has been edited. Last edited by: Vintage Lace, |
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Schooling |
My horse if fine without Cytek. Actually, I take the shoes off during the winter. My farrier does a natural trim to the feet once the shoes have been taking off and its works great. I never had a problem with it...
And I do competitive riding, we show 3rd level dressage and never has anybody said that she looked off... IMO...I think this topic has come and go, there will always be someone unhappy with it...
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